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	<title>Comments on: question: dualbutton css</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-7370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like this is getting fixed for Firefox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509642</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like this is getting fixed for Firefox: <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509642" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509642</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-6801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to being wrong for Gnome as mentioned above, dualbuttons are wrong for Windows too. The Win32 version of a dualbutton, a &quot;split button&quot;, is a special kind of button that has a bar between the text and the arrow. It&#039;s not a button within a button as you&#039;d get with -moz-appearance:dualbutton-dropdown.

The same thing applies to toolbar buttons (e.g. the &quot;Get Mail&quot; button in Thunderbird). It seems like this idea is fairly common across OS boundaries so maybe there should be a more straightforward way to handle it? I looked at the DOM for the new message buttons in Thunderbird 3 and it feels like it&#039;s trying to work around buggy/missing features with -moz-appearance.

MSDN has some information about the buttons here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb775947%28VS.85%29.aspx . Note that it&#039;s a little misleading and split buttons are in XP as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being wrong for Gnome as mentioned above, dualbuttons are wrong for Windows too. The Win32 version of a dualbutton, a &#8220;split button&#8221;, is a special kind of button that has a bar between the text and the arrow. It&#8217;s not a button within a button as you&#8217;d get with -moz-appearance:dualbutton-dropdown.</p>
<p>The same thing applies to toolbar buttons (e.g. the &#8220;Get Mail&#8221; button in Thunderbird). It seems like this idea is fairly common across OS boundaries so maybe there should be a more straightforward way to handle it? I looked at the DOM for the new message buttons in Thunderbird 3 and it feels like it&#8217;s trying to work around buggy/missing features with -moz-appearance.</p>
<p>MSDN has some information about the buttons here: <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb775947%28VS.85%29.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb775947%28VS.85%29.aspx</a> . Note that it&#8217;s a little misleading and split buttons are in XP as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Clark</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-6561</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil: I&#039;m looking at this from a &quot;How can I hack around the toolkit behaviour&quot; to get what I want.  I&#039;m not sure if I see this as a toolkit bug but I haven&#039;t thought about it from that angle.

@_FrnchFrgg_: thanks for the tip, I&#039;ll try that out!

- sorry comments weren&#039;t working for a while, the captcha key went bad for some reason -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil: I&#8217;m looking at this from a &#8220;How can I hack around the toolkit behaviour&#8221; to get what I want.  I&#8217;m not sure if I see this as a toolkit bug but I haven&#8217;t thought about it from that angle.</p>
<p>@_FrnchFrgg_: thanks for the tip, I&#8217;ll try that out!</p>
<p>- sorry comments weren&#8217;t working for a while, the captcha key went bad for some reason -</p>
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		<title>By: _FrnchFrgg_</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-6560</link>
		<dc:creator>_FrnchFrgg_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, to blend more in the gnome ui, we should make dropdown always appear as two separate buttons and not some kind of a button that overwrites part of the border of another (that&#039;s the goal of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409655, shame on me for not doing anything mozilla-related these past months).

You probably want to use -moz-appearance: button for the two inner objects of the dropdown, and remove the special -moz-appearance that the dropdown probably has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, to blend more in the gnome ui, we should make dropdown always appear as two separate buttons and not some kind of a button that overwrites part of the border of another (that&#8217;s the goal of <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409655" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409655</a>, shame on me for not doing anything mozilla-related these past months).</p>
<p>You probably want to use -moz-appearance: button for the two inner objects of the dropdown, and remove the special -moz-appearance that the dropdown probably has.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Parsons</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-6559</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; (Mac is using it’s own button style)

s/it’s/its/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; (Mac is using it’s own button style)</p>
<p>s/it’s/its/</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Rashbrook</title>
		<link>http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/05/11/question-dualbutton-css/comment-page-1/#comment-6556</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Rashbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you approaching this from the toolkit point of view (&quot;I think toolkit has a bug that needs to be fixed&quot;) or the Thunderbird point of view (&quot;How do I hack around this toolkit behaviour&quot;)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you approaching this from the toolkit point of view (&#8220;I think toolkit has a bug that needs to be fixed&#8221;) or the Thunderbird point of view (&#8220;How do I hack around this toolkit behaviour&#8221;)?</p>
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